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Will Graham Discusses His Legacy and 'Proof of God'

By Billy Hallowell on Sep 30, 2020 4:29:00 PM

Topics: Christianity

The Pure Flix Podcast interviews Pastor Reverend Billy Graham's grandson Will Graham about the legacy he carries on. 

Listen to the episode and find the transcript below:


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Billy Hallowell: Hey, what's going on, I'm Billy Hallowell: and welcome to the Pure Flix podcast. This is a weekly show where we offer you your favorite interviews with pastors and celebrities, some insight, inspiration, and a preview of what's to come in faith and family friendly entertainment. As always, we're gonna dive in with a little bit of a devotional today. We're going to focus in on four biblical lessons that we all desperately need right now. So what are the lessons? Well, let's start with number one. It's important to reach out to others. And this might seem like common sense. And we know that the Bible is clear about the importance of reaching out to those who are sick, to our friends, to our loved ones, even to strangers, who were called to live out our faith in practice rather than isolating ourselves or retreating from those around us. But life gets busy, life gets complicated, and we sometimes don't live out that call to reach out to others. So, the question is, are you reaching out enough to others in your life? It's a question I've had to ask myself recently, and I think it's an important one for us to be considering as Christians. So there's the first lesson, tidbit, thought provoking piece of advice, let's think, on how we're reaching out to others. The second piece of advice for us to consider this week, take church out into the community. What does that mean? It means going beyond the church doors, helping those in the community beyond us. It's very similar to our first point of reaching out to others. But I think it's important to think in context of churches. You know, sometimes we get so insulated that we're ministering to people in the church, which is great, but we're forgetting to take the message of Jesus outside of the church into communities, so we can ask ourselves a couple of questions to test and see how we're doing on this front. One, are we doing enough to help those outside of the church's walls? And two, how can we better be the hands and feet of Jesus? We can ask that as individuals, but also, I think as as institutions, as churches, individual churches and collective denominations. The third point of advice, persevere in the midst of uncertainty. You know, life is is complicated. It gets uncertain. There are uphill battles that can really create difficult circumstances for us. Sometimes it's a matter of setting a goal that seems near impossible. Sometimes it's a matter of trying to overcome something when you just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Life again, it gets complicated. There's so many things that we deal with. But even when we feel like we're defeated, we have to remember that there is hope. We've got to remember that God has a plan and that no matter what unfolds, that His Will should be trusted and should be sought, even if the results are not what we want them to be. The fourth point of advice, don't underestimate the power of prayer. Prayer matters. And through faith, anything is possible. But it's through prayer, both in the good and the bad times that we can really be sustained by God, when things seem the darkest, that's when we can turn to God in prayer. But we should be doing that even when things are light. You know, a lot of times we only turn to God when we're struggling and we should really be seeking Him at every turn in our lives. These are the points of advice that can really help us and guide us through those difficult moments. Now, all of these themes are incredibly important. You can find more about them on our blog over at And as a side note, they're all lessons you can learn in our new original film, Sweet Inspirations, which you can watch on today. Let's dive in now to an interview that we have with a really exciting guest. It's Will Graham. He's the grandson of Pastor Reverend, well-known evangelist Will Graham: . How you doing today Will?

Will Graham: I'm doing well, Billy. Thank you.

Billy Hallowell: Well, thanks for coming on. So you have a new book out. It's a devotional. It's called, "Redeemed Devotions for the Longing Soul". So what inspired you to write this book?

Will Graham: Well, it's I've been I've been wanting to write for a little while, and knew that one day I would be. And there's been a number of opportunities that have come up in a, every time I've prayed about God said, "No, no, you can't. Now, not now". And, this past year, I was in a movie called, Unbroken Panther Redemption, where I played the role of my grandfather and, I had a publisher come and say, "we'll want you. Let's write a book about this". Excuse me. And, as you well know, God doesn't want me to, just give me permission to do it yet. And to be honest, I said that without even, asking God about it. You know, I just gave my rote answer that it was God's always been tell me. And I hadn't felt different. And so I didn't think the answer changed. And then I actually went back and started praying about it. I tried to get God wants me to. God has now give me permission to start to write. And so the time was right. And I say that I don't know why God chose this time to start, allow me to write, but the God allow me to write. And so when it came to the devotional side of the piece, it's something I've been wanting to do for a long time. Even before I came to the Will Graham: Evangelistic Association, I was pastor in a church in Raleigh, North Carolina, North Raleigh, and I've been writing devotions for my church every week. I would write a devotion based on my sermon. I would take my sermon and put in a devotional format. And so I said, well, I'll just collect these and I'll put them in a book one day.

Will Graham: Well, when this came around, I was kind of prepared, but we didn't actually use any of the stuff when I was a pastor and I went onto them.

Will Graham: I wanted to try something that's seem. I'm a great I love to tell stories. I love to tell what I've seen God do. And so we started recording these stories and of these things I saw God do. I've had the chance to travel the world, travel the country and to preach the gospel, seeing God do some amazing things in people's lives. And, I love sharing God's stories 'cause I believe that God should be the hero of every story. And I've often said, if God's not the hero of your story, then it's not a story worth telling. God needs to be the hero of your stories. Those the ones that honor God, and put at the forefront. And so I want to share some of these God stories that I've seen in my life, some from a grandads life. And. And so I just wanted to write a book that just talked about what ups in God do and in that how that it can apply for someone living, you know, in the world today and what that means. And so, this book is just kind of a byproduct of something I've been wanting to do for a long time and get to see firsthand. And and actually, I wrote it right before my grant. I wrote it and headed even submitted it to the publisher before my granddaddy died.

Billy Hallowell: Oh, wow.

Will Graham: And so when my grandfather passed away, I had to go back and I had to. I had now had to go back and change some things because I use my granddaddy in the present tense, now I had to put him in past tense. And so, which was not a big deal from a from an editing standpoint, but it was just, a sober reminder, you know, that life is short. And my granddaddy was here and now he's gone. And, it was a bit of sobering, just a emotional time, just kind of rewriting some of this stuff from a. You know, from a present tense to a past tense. was an emotional book.

Billy Hallowell: What an incredible, what an incredible life he lived. You know.

Will Graham: Yeah, he lived an incredible life.

Billy Hallowell: He did. And I look at, you know, we were just talking about the stories that people have. And, you know, the God stories and God being the hero of all of these stories, I hear so many people battling over, you know, where's the proof of God? And the one thing for me, as somebody who spent years covering faith and looking at faith stories from a journalistic perspective, the thing that always stands out to me is that, you know, there are so many stories of people and, you know, this obviously, who have gone from one place in life, a very dark, dangerous, difficult place, to accepting Christ and their entire life is transformed. Whether that's instantly, whether that's over a period of time, there's nothing to me that's the proof of, you know, the gospel is seeing God be the hero in those stories. And I think there's a real thirst among not just Christians, but the world in general, to see those overcomer stories unfold. And you can find that evidence when you're looking for it. So I love that you've put this book together, "Redeemed" because that is the word that I think illustrates the change that is a proof of God's existence in my mind.

Billy Hallowell: Well, you know, that's what we know. We use that, "Redeemed" because we've been bought back and we've been bought with a price. And that price was the blood of Christ. And on the cross. And that's what gives us that new relationship with Christ, that forgiveness of sins. And the proof of it is the Resurrection. You know, Christ not just stayed in the grave. He came out of the grave to show it right. All the things I've said are true. And it was a living testimony to everybody. And so, you know, that's why I love that word, "Redeem" it kind of sums it all up.

Billy Hallowell: Yeah, it's amazing. I think it's a great title.

Will Graham: I'm grateful for that. And...

Billy Hallowell: Well, let me let me ask you this. What was it like, to play your grandfather in Unbroken Path to Redemption? Because that, I would imagine that's a it's a difficult task, but probably a rewarding one.

Well, it's a it's nerve wracking. Let's just say I'm a retired actor now. I don't want to I don't want to act anymore. But it was a, I had a great experience. Please, I don't want to make it sound like I was a bad experience. It was a great experience. But, I'm used to when I preach, you know, every preacher on Sunday morning excuse me, every preacher on Sunday mornings, you know, when they preach a sermon, it's it's a it's one take. You know, if you make if you said something wrong in the sermon, you've said it wrong. I mean, you don't really you can maybe fix yourself real quick, but you've said it.

Will Graham: And, when you're acting, like an honest Hollywood scene and what you're doing is you're preaching and the director says, cut, cut, cut. Well, I don't believe what you're saying. You have no enthusiasm. Do it again. Yes. You know, if you keep being cut in the middle of your own sermon, you know, you're not used to that. But...

Billy Hallowell: You were also playing an icon.

I had a great enthusiasm. And I am. But I'm the good thing is I get to play my granddaddy. And it's it's something I can do. Like, I'm. That's one reason they wanted me, because I was a preacher. I am a preacher. And so all I got to do is preach. And I'm just preaching my granddaddy sermon from nineteen forty nine. So, it worked out pretty well. And it was a great privilege. I think everybody wants to be in a movie one day in their life and I never thought I would. I've always wanted to be, but never thought I would ever be in a Hollywood movie. And now I've got to be in a Hollywood movie and get to play my granddad. So kind of a bonus feature for me, that's for sure.

Billy Hallowell: You get to check that one off the bucket list, right? Well, you know...

Will Graham: I've done it, done it, and I don't wanna do it again.

I wanted to ask, you know, what what led you, into ministry? Because obviously, your family, the deep roots, not everybody decides to go in to ministry. But what for you, were sort of the defining points that showed you that God was leading you in that direction in your life?

Yeah, it was. I don't look back and I don't see, like a one date said, oh, well, gonna be a preacher, you know, proclaim the God's word like that. But what I do look back and I see I see breadcrumbs and I can see, man Lord was prepare me the whole time and I just didn't know it. And, I think one of the first things I did was when I was in an early grade school, the teacher said draw a picture what you want to be in life. And all my friends, they drew pictures of football helmets. They all want to be like the next Joe Montana or Dan Marino, you know. You know, we wanted to be the winning football player on the on the Super Bowl. We always want to be the winning touchdown. I mean, that was every guy's dream. Per say, but for me, I drew a picture of an open Bible and a pair of David Clark headsets. Now, most people don't know what David Clark headsets are. David Clark headsets, is these lime green, ugly colored green headphones that you would wear for Aviator's. They can hear and then would have a microphone there. She could hear and talk back to air traffic control. And I want to be someone that flew around telling people about Jesus. That's why I had an open Bible and aviator headsets on, because I want to fly around, tell people about Jesus and be like my dad. And so I think that was one of the first inklings, where God was starting to prepare me for my future ministry. But I see a whole bunch of breadcrumbs between grade school, early grade school until all the way through seminary. God was preparing me for what I'm doing now.

Billy Hallowell: And my last question for you. What what would you, say is the biggest lesson you take away from your grandfather's life, especially now having worked on this book? Reflecting on his life after his death this year? What what do you take away from his life personally?

Will Graham: Well, there's a there's a few things that really stick out. One was the commitment to God's word. God's word became very important in my granddad's life. And that really came to a head in August of 1949 when he was at Forrest Home, California, at a retreat center conference center. And he was therefore conference and he was a nobody, nobody knew who Will Graham: was. He was not famous. Nobody even heard, matter of fact; they were criticizing the director of the place for having such a unnamed person come and talk to them. And, he had his best friend was there, Chuck Temperton. And Chuck was telling him that you can't trust God's Word, you can't trust God's Word. You know, it is. It's written by a man. You can't trust it. But my, but my granddaddy, he just felt conflicted, he felt he could trust it and he knew this would forever change his life. Whatever decision he made, it was going to change his life, whether to run away from Christ or to get deeper into Christ. And so, one day he went out for a walk, took his Bible, put it on a stump and said, Lord, I can't answer all my prince questions about the Bible. But, I trust this is Your Word and I'm gonna trust it is Your Word, and I will preach it as Your Word. And so that was kind like the line in the sand from our granddaddy. We never looked back. And that and that next day, his preaching forever changed and people would say, man, or something supernatural. But Billy's preaching all of a sudden it's changed. And they had no idea what had just happened. Even my granddaddy didn't fully understand it. And then the next month, he would start what would be known as the great Los Angeles crusade. And that's when Will Graham: would become famous. And Los Angeles was forever changed because of my grandfather. And so that was in 1949. And, I think that's one the most pivotal things I remembered about about my granddad's life when he trusted in God's Word and he preached God's Word. He didn't preach politics. He didn't preach current events. He talked about those things. But he preached from God's Word and it had authority and power. The more he quoted, the more people that would come to know Christ, he thought, because it was supernatural power in God's Word. And that's what we believe as an organization.

Will Graham: We believe as a family, that when we preach God's word and that's why you would always hear a great day, said the Bible, says the Bible says, the Bible says, because he believed that there was power that would change and convict people's lives of sin, of judgment and of righteousness. And so that's what he believed in. And that's one of the things I learned a lot about him. And I want to continue to do going into my ministry.

Billy Hallowell: Well, listen, I so appreciate you taking the time to come on today. We're gonna link out and encourage people to pick up copies of Redeemed. Thanks again for your time.

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Billy Hallowell: Hey, what's going on? Welcome back to the Pure Flix podcast. I am Billy Hallowell: . Let's talk a little bit about caring for other people. This is something we talked about at the start of the show, and we went through the four pieces of biblical advice that we can all take into account. We can kind of be reflecting on our lives. How are we living? Are we living out Scripture in the way we should be? Well, we have a really fascinating list of 30 Bible verses about caring for other people. You can read all 30 verses over on our blog at But we do in that story, is we provide some advice. You know, how do you care for other people? What does the Bible say about being there for the poor? For our friends? For those in need. And I just wanna share a couple pieces of Scripture for you. I think they're pretty powerful. Philippians 2:4, "Look, not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others". We've also got Hebrews 10:24, "And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works". You know, God wants us to be there for other people to love one another, to care for one another.

Billy Hallowell: And really, the Bible warns us a lot about, you know, ignoring the plight of the poor, and that we need to be there to help those around us who are in need to be there for the sick. Romans, 15:1 one tells us, "We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves". Matthew 10:8, "Heal the sick. Cleanse the lepers. Raise the dead. Cast out devils. Freely you have received freely give". And so there's so many verses and obviously you have to put a lot of these verses in context. But the picture that they paint is one in which, we should be alive and active in being the hands and feet of Jesus in the lives of those around us. We should be giving more than we receive and we should be living out good works.

I wanna read to you just one more verse. 1 Timothy 5:8, "But if any, provide not for a zone and specifically for those of his own house, he is denied the faith in his worth. Worse than an infidel". So, you do caring for those around us, caring for those in our own home, loving the people around us, showing affection. And so you can read all 30 verses. We have verses and descriptions over on the Pure Flix Insider blog. There's one other story I wanna point you to this week that is incredibly important. It's about Special Olympian Frank Stevens. He gave a congressional testimony back in 2017 about living with Down Syndrome. He received a lot of renewed attention in recent days after actor Ashton Kutcher. I posted that 2017 testimony on his own Facebook page. And he so Ashton put it out there and everybody noticed it. And people were like, wow, this is this is pretty incredible. And then Frank Stevens, the special Olympian, he went on Fox News, Fox and Friends and talked a little bit about his life. And it was really pretty powerful just to hear what he had to say about those who seek to encourage people to end the lives of people who have Down's Syndrome. And he said something about abortion that was really interesting and about life. He said, quote, 'I don't want to make it illegal. I want to make it unthinkable. Politicians change laws. I want to change people's hearts'. And so you can watch what he had to say. Read about it over on Pure Flix Insider, it's Now, I want you guys to listen here because we've got another interview that I think you're gonna love. And this particular interview is with Dr. Jeff Huxford: . Dr. Huxford. He suffered a traumatic brain injury. He's written a new book called Finding Normal. And in the book, he talks about his life going from being a medical doctor to having to retire and really what it took in that process for him to discover Jesus like he had never discovered Jesus before. So we're gonna welcome Dr. Jeff Huxford: , to the show right now. How you doing today?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: I'm good. Thanks. Appreciate you having me.

Billy Hallowell: And thanks for coming on. Congratulations on Finding Normal. I guess the place to start here, because your story is so moving and I'm excited to have a chance to to share this with with listeners. But, you had an accident, a traumatic accident in Indiana back in 2012. Can you just take us through that event?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Sure. So at the time, it was in May of 2012, at the time, I was living with my wife and two kids and I was a family doctor in this small town. And I'd went in town to pick up some things at the hardware store, which my father-in-law owns. And I was heading back to the house. My wife and my daughter right at the house. My son was in kindergarten at the time, actually. My wife and my daughter, they were in the garage sale, but I was on the way home and I went through an intersection like I go through everyday. Intersection or two major highways meet. There's a flashing red light there, four way stop. And I I stopped at the stoplight, went through, but a truck going the other way, did not stop. Hit me in the passenger side and ran me into a push my truck into a concrete pole, and my truck was essentially wrapped around the pole and my head went through the driver's side window and hit the pole. They had to call E.M.S., of course, and had to cut me out of the jaws of life. And, they transported me from the accident scene to Chicago. And I was in one hospital there for for a week, and I was transferred to another hospital for another three weeks. And, the last hospital was a rehab hospital. It was a it was an accident that you saw the truck. You think there's no way I'd survive. So, it was a miracle I survived.

Billy Hallowell: I saw a photo of it. It's unbelievable. I mean, if if I stumbled upon that accident, I would say there's no way, as you just said, that that person or those people in that car made it out, alive.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah, right. That's what most people that that drove by that drove by that day. They said they figured, they didn't know it was my truck. But whoever was in that truck hadn't survived. But I did. And I did suffer a severe traumatic brain injury. It's actually a, it's a pretty astonishing that that was the major injury I had. I didn't, have any, I had a broken rib, which resulted in a punctured lung, but I had no other broken bones, no other internal injuries, other than the brain injury.

Billy Hallowell: How did, how did that brain injury, Jeff, and I know this is a loaded question, but how did that change your life?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah so, I've been at the time I've been a doctor for, practicing for six years and I really heaven't treated many patients with brain injuries. I didn't. I had a pretty poor understanding of it. I heard about, you know, football players or athletes getting concussions. And essentially, that's what I had to make, like a really major concussion, really poor understanding of it. But really, a brain injury does. It's an invisible injury. You look at somebody with a brain injury, you really don't see much. Most times or sometimes you can. But in my case, if you're looking at me, you would not see any injury at all. That's why they called the invisible injury. But essentially, they talk they talked about a lot to me. They talked to me, my wife, early on about this a lot. They talked about how after a brain injury, a person has to find what they call their new normal, meaning that the person they were before, like their likes and dislikes, their personality, is going to be a lot different than they were before. And I don't really believe that. At first I thought, you know, yeah, I was gonna be different for a while, but eventually I would've, with enough hard work and enough time and determination, I could get back two hours before. But, eventually that kind of resonates with me, and I figured out they were, that was actually very accurate.

Billy Hallowell: How hard is that to contend with? Because in your mind, you're thinking, I can do this, I can overcome this piece of it? I don't you know, this is not gonna hold me back. But then, you realize at some point, my life is changed. How do you how do you cope with that?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: It's not easy. I mean, I have some good days and some some days I'm perfectly fine with the fact I'm a different person and that I have lost a few things and I've gained a few things that I'm perfectly fine with that. But it's all about perspective, really. And, I think it's the healthiest format when I take the perspective yet, that this brain injury may have taken a lot from me, but it's also given me a lot, a lot of things that I didn't have before, a lot of more insight and just a healthier perspective on things. So if I could take that kind of approach to it where I'm not focusing so much on all the things I've lost, but trying to focus on what I've gained, and that's a lot that's a lot better for me.

Billy Hallowell: Well, let's start there, because I think it's really interesting hearing that in your story, one of the big things was an authentic faith, you know, kind of moving away from this cultural faith, toward authentic. And so, I don't want to speak for you, but when you talk about the things you've gained, maybe we can start with faith and talk through some of that.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah, that was. Yeah. Out of all the things, that was number one, I mean, and it wasn't, that didn't happen from the start. But in regards to my faith, I was fortunate and blessed to grow up in a Christian home, going to church, and learning about Jesus from a young age. But I think over time, I got really comfortable, my faith, and it became more of a, checklist type thing, where I was making sure I was checking the right boxes in, you know, doing a few things that I should be doing and not doing the things I shouldn't be doing. It wasn't about a relationship. It was more about, like a checklist type faith. I think this over time, I got really comfortable with that. And, I would compare myself and the strength of my faith to other people. I think thats the biggest thing, it wasn't a relationship. It was more about. Doing the right thing and not doing certain things. Checklist type faith. It wasn't it wasn't a relationship with Jesus and letting him. Give me the strength and the power, to change me and to live for him.

Billy Hallowell: In the accident, in the aftermath of that, what would you say the benchmarks were that led you more towards that? Sure. Big moments that, small moments was it gradual? I'm just I'm really intrigued.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah. So I think, it's hard to say, but I think one of the big moments was, like I said, my goal from the very early on, or actually from the start of this, when I realized I had a brain injury and I realized I had a pretty serious injury, my goal was to get back two hours before. That was my that was my primary goal. And eventually I realized I couldn't do that. And I kind of gave up. And I think that when I gave up on that, it kind of almost transferred over to my faith where I finally gave up on trying to do everything for God and letting Him do, letting Him change me. But there was one particular moment that was a pivotal moment in my faith was, this was about two years, two to three years after the accident. At the time, my wife was working at our church at home, and she was moved to a conference in Texas. And, so I went along with her to this conference. She was gonna learn some things that would help her at work. But honestly, I was just going to kind of get away for a while, and I was going to this. Now I thought I'm going to this church conference. But there's nothing really I'd need to learn. I've got this stuff all figured out. And, I really wasn't expecting much of anything. But, there was a speaker at that conference that was talking and his talk was he was talking about the verse and revelation and Revelation 3:16. Where their talking about lukewarm Christians. I wish you were neither hot or cold because you're lukewarm, but a spit out of my mouth. And so that was a verse that I'd heard growing up. And I think when I heard that every time I heard it, when I was growing up, I would be thinking, I mean, I hate to be one of these lukewarm Christians he's talking about because Iike they have no idea what's coming to him. And that's how I looked at in the past. But when I heard the verse this time, I started seeing myself as maybe being one, being one of those lukewarm Christians.

Billy Hallowell: Things changed a bit.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah. And, you know, you hear about people when they go to conferences and they come home. They're fired up and they're, you know, they're gonna start reading their Bible more. And their just gonna start lived out their faith, more intentionally. And when I came from the conference, that's what I was like, and I guess I kind of assumed that that may pass, and made me go back to what I was before but, that was in 2014, I think maybe 13. And, you know, I have times where, I kind of slip back in old ways. But, in general, I really haven't slip back since that time. I mean, it's it's changed me ever since then. Like, I don't think I'll ever be the same.

Billy Hallowell: You know, it's it's amazing how when difficult things, life changing things happen to us, many times that's when we find the center. That's when we find God. And so many people have, you know, this similar story. And when you look at what you've lost and what you've gained and you look at that balance, because I know that's difficult when you talk about the things you've lost, how do you feel just looking back on that as a full picture when we talk about we just spoke about and when we think on the other side about the the things, again, that you that you've lost. What's your perspective on the overall image of that?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Well, I think that maybe one way I could explain that is, a question I get asked a lot now is, you know, when they people look at what I'm doing now, where I'm I've written a book and starting to speak and stuff like that, people ask feel like, OK, you had this traumatic brain injury. But God has turned this into a pretty amazing story. If you could go back back in time, would you do it? Would you do this? Would you want to happen again? And I was never sure to answer them before. I wasn't sure what to tell those people. I had a hard time find the words to explain what I was feeling. But I think the best way I've kind of figured out a way I can explain it in the best way is saying to them, I would never wish a traumatic brain injury on a person. And I would. I would never wanna go through what I went through. But if that's what it took for me to find Jesus and learn about Jesus in the way I needed to, then then I would I would do it all again. That's what it took.

Billy Hallowell: That it's so when I think about your story, it's so difficult too, because I know that it wasn't just you, you know, obviously you have a wife. You have kids. Yeah. What was this process like for them to navigate the changes that were going on in you? And also, I know probably for your wife, the frustration you're feeling, she's probably feeling that as well. So what was the what was that process like in your family?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: But I tell people this all the time, that my wife, I wasn't aware what was going on, but I guess the month I was in the hospital, in fact, she wrote she wrote a chapter in the book that many people told me that's the best chapter in the book, which I'm excited for, but also, its one of those things that, I've had enough enough of her, her chapters good, I know.

Billy Hallowell: But what about the rest of the book?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah. Right. And what about the other six chapters?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: No, it is. It is. She did a great job, but she handled that month I was in the hospital. You know, I heard this from the people, this in a way that there's no way I would have, she had she was able to hold things together and think clearly on what else is going on, make good decisions and I'm just not sure at the time if I would've been able to do that. The same and the same on the same lines. I mean, the way she's dealt with, essentially, she's she married me back in 2000 and yeah, I'm gonna get in trouble, in 2003, and then the person she's married to now is a lot different person. She's handled that tremendously and same thing with my kids, I mean, my kids were young when it happened. They can't remember what it was like before. And I think they've they can tell I'm a different person. And I think sometimes they get frustrated that I can't do what I used to do or, you know, I get tired or I get tired, easier than I used to. And I can't handle loud noises or whatever. But I think and again, I get frustrated times. In general, there, they've handled it all very well. And I'm very lucky that they've been able to do that.

Billy Hallowell: Well, what are you hoping that people take away from Finding Normal when they get a chance to pick up copies and read it and just, you know, we're going to link out to the book. People can grab it on Amazon. But what's what's the big take away?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot in there. I hope the takeaway I think that I think the main thing I want people to take away from my book is, it's a sense of hope. You know, we're all going to go through tough times. God never promises to promised us a easy life or a life free of trouble. But he did promise to be with us during those times and hope you'll be able to take hope in that. And they can when they read my story here, my story, they see how God was there through all that, even when even we even when we maybe didn't see it or even even when we were really questioning what what he was doing, that he was there all along and just orchestrating it all. And was making it into something beautiful.

Billy Hallowell: Well, listen, I so appreciate you coming on the podcast today. Any final words for us today Dr.Huxford?

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Uhm, tell you one more one more quick story. I think it's pretty amazing. About a week before the accident, we were having a small group at our house. And this night in particular, we decided to go around the room and have each one of us share a story or our testimony or kind of how we how and why we became a Christian. So when it came around to me, I decided I was talking to the rest of the group. I told them that I kind of apologized to him, saying that I was born in a Christian home and I had never strayed too far from my faith. So I really felt like my story was boring. I couldn't imagine why. What I can tell them would help them anyway. And again, this was like a week. This is a week exactly, almost a week exactly before the accident happened. And I think it's so crazy that. Seemed like, you know, a week before I was complaining about an hour of a story, and a week later, it's guys like, OK, here's a story that you're. Here's the story you said you're jealous of or that you're complaining you didn't have. I'm gonna give you one. What are you gonna do with it now? So.

Billy Hallowell: Well, it's not like you've it seems like you're doing something pretty amazing with it now.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: I hope so. I mean, sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, I hope. I hope so. But I hope it's helping people.

Billy Hallowell: Well, listen, I so appreciate you taking the time today to inspire people, I think for a lot of people, if they can see that you're able to move forward after something that is so difficult and in a lot of ways devastating. I think people can find the strength in their lives to move forward in the circumstances they're dealing with, too. So I so appreciate you sharing the story and everyone listening. Please run out and grab copies of Finding Normal. Thanks so much for joining us today.

Dr. Jeff Huxford: Hey, thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

Billy Hallowell: And that's all for the Pure Flicks podcast today. I'm Billy Hallowell: . You can check out our daily inspirational content on Facebook at You can also go over to for inspirational daily blog content. Thanks for tuning in. Tune in next week for another episode of the Pure Flix podcast.

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